two things.
10.28.2009
1) loling: Eventually, I think about a year and a half or something went by, and he went to spring training with us (in big league camp), and once we had him in spring training, Dick Pole and I — Dick Pole was my pitching coach...[charlie manuel spins a long ass yarn courtesy of lohud]
2) extreme opposite of loling: again per lohud somewhere, joe west will be an umpire in the WS. thanks for be so incompetent, mlb!